DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Flash side by side: specs, capabilities, parameters, and live pricing from the EmpirioLabs catalog.

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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash at a glance

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 from DeepSeek and Qwen3.8 Flash from Alibaba Cloud are both in the Text Generation category, available through the EmpirioLabs API.

Key differences

  • DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is the newer release (Oct 17, 2026); Qwen3.8 Flash was released on Aug 26, 2026.
  • DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has the larger context window: 1M tokens, against 983.6K for Qwen3.8 Flash.
  • DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 returns up to 393,216 output tokens per response, Qwen3.8 Flash up to 131,072.
  • Input types only Qwen3.8 Flash accepts: Video.
  • Capabilities listed only for DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: cache.
  • Capabilities listed only for Qwen3.8 Flash: multimodal, web search, code interpreter, structured output.
  • Qwen3.8 Flash lists the lower rate for Input (per 1M prompt tokens) and Output (per 1M generated tokens).

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash: specs

SpecDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017Qwen3.8 Flash
Model IDdeepseek-v4-1-flash-1017qwen3-8-flash
AuthorDeepSeekAlibaba Cloud
ReleasedOct 17, 2026Aug 26, 2026
Context window1M tokens983.6K tokens
Max output393,216 tokens131,072 tokens
Input
Text Image
Text Image Video
Output
Text
Text
Structured outputJSON ModeJSON Schema
RegionSingaporeSingapore
Endpoints
POST /v1/chat/completions POST /v1/responses POST /v1/messages POST /v1beta/models/deepseek-v4-1-flash-1017:generateContent
POST /v1/chat/completions POST /v1/responses POST /v1/messages POST /v1beta/models/qwen3-8-flash:generateContent
Capabilities
reasoning vision function calling agentic coding cache
reasoning vision multimodal web search code interpreter function calling structured output agentic coding

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash: API pricing

Live rates from the EmpirioLabs catalog for both models. Each rate card always matches what the API charges.

Type
Spec
Rate
Input
per 1M prompt tokens
$0.16
Output
per 1M generated tokens
$0.47
Web search
per call when invoked
$0.02
Text-to-image search
per call when invoked
$0.02
Image-to-image search
per call when invoked
$0.02
Web extractor
per call when invoked
$0.00
Code interpreter
per call when invoked
$0.00
Compare on the full pricing page

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash: API parameters

Request parameters each model lists on EmpirioLabs, with the allowed values or range where one applies. A dash marks a parameter the model does not list.

ParameterDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017Qwen3.8 Flash
temperature0 to 2 Default: 0.70 to 1.99 Default: 0.7
top_p0 to 1 Default: 0.90 to 1 Default: 0.9
max_tokens1 to 3932161 to 131072
stopstringstring
enable_thinkingboolean Default: trueboolean Default: true
reasoning_effortnone, low, medium, high, max Default: mediumnone, low, medium, high, max
thinking_budget1 to 393216 Default: 327681 to 262144
response_formatenumenum
web_search_linkupboolean Default: false-
disable_formattingboolean Default: falseboolean Default: false
preserve_thinking-boolean Default: true
seed-0 to 2147483647
top_k-1 to 100
presence_penalty--2 to 2
repetition_penalty-0.1 to 2
n-1 to 4 Default: 1

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash: limits and notes

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

Thinking is enabled by default and can be disabled. Reasoning tokens are billed as output tokens. Image input is accepted alongside text. JSON mode is supported. Strict JSON Schema output is not available on this model. Optional Linkup web search is billed only when invoked. From October 27, 2026, the deepseek-v4-1-flash model IDs are served by this model.

Qwen3.8 Flash

Text, image, and video input are supported. Web search, web extractor, code interpreter, text-to-image search, and image-to-image search are optional built-in tools exposed through tool_* parameters. Web search, text-to-image search, and image-to-image search add $0.02 for each invoked call; web extractor and code interpreter run at no extra cost. Web extractor requires web search, and both web extractor and code interpreter require thinking. A single request can invoke a tool more than once, and each invoked call is billed. Thinking tokens are billed as output tokens.

How to call DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Flash

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 serves the OpenAI-compatible Chat Completions API. Point any OpenAI SDK at https://api.empiriolabs.ai/v1 with your EmpirioLabs API key and use the model id deepseek-v4-1-flash-1017. Both models are called through the same endpoint. Set model to deepseek-v4-1-flash-1017 or qwen3-8-flash. Get an API key from the EmpirioLabs dashboard.

cURL
curl https://api.empiriolabs.ai/v1/chat/completions \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer $EMPIRIOLABS_API_KEY" \
  -H "Content-Type: application/json" \
  -d '{
    "model": "deepseek-v4-1-flash-1017",
    "messages": [
      {"role": "user", "content": "Write a haiku about the ocean."}
    ]
  }'

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash: tests and guides

Prompt tests and comparison runs that cover both models.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Flash: common questions

What is the difference between DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Flash?

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is the newer release (Oct 17, 2026); Qwen3.8 Flash was released on Aug 26, 2026. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has the larger context window: 1M tokens, against 983.6K for Qwen3.8 Flash. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 returns up to 393,216 output tokens per response, Qwen3.8 Flash up to 131,072. The specs, rate cards, and parameters on this page come from the live EmpirioLabs catalog.

Which is newer, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3.8 Flash?

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is the newer release (Oct 17, 2026); Qwen3.8 Flash was released on Aug 26, 2026.

Which has the lower rate, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Qwen3.8 Flash lists the lower rate for Input (per 1M prompt tokens) and Output (per 1M generated tokens). Both live rate cards are on this page and always match what the API charges.

Can I switch between DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Flash without rebuilding my integration?

Yes. Both models use POST /v1/chat/completions with the same EmpirioLabs API key, so most integrations switch by changing the model value. Check the parameters table on this page first if you rely on a model-specific parameter.

Can I try DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Flash in the browser before integrating?

Yes. Open each model in the EmpirioLabs playground and run the same prompt on both, with the parameters the API exposes.

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